Lol, very violent, very erotic.

You can't say you are for the people if you trash stores and cause chaos. Not to mention the fact that protesting itself historically actually holds very little political effectiveness and simply polarizes the public. However, people like the quick feel good feeling of having people back them up in masses then go home, rather than spending days researching and developing a proposal and then going to their local or state government learning the right people to talk to and working from there.

We are a republic, not a pure democracy deliberately to avoid riots and the chaos these people bring. Congress is designed as the grounds to cool the impatient passions of the public. Ironically the very ideology that these occupy protesters promote is the very cause of the dystopia that George Orwell's book 1984 and Animal Farm was warning against. Fighting against the "elites" is nothing more than thinly veiled greed and jealousy if there is not a specific virtue that is guiding such actions.

Likewise, on the other spectrum from progressives, there are some libertarians who think that their "time" will come in some massive civil war revolution against the government. The truth is while firearms are a very important check against the government, why wait until people die to fix things? With the internet there are countless ways to support the good guys in local, state, and even Federal level. It takes time and a hell of a lot of work, but in truth, if you aren't capable or willing to put the hours in now, what makes you think you will do it when the shots are fired? Once a civil war starts, we will all have lost something, even if we "win" in the end. Our first and foremost goal should be to act now in the political spectrum to prevent such a pointless waste of American lives, rather than just roll our eyes at the political process.

Not to mention from a tactical perspective, I have met countless militia groups and almost none of them have a concrete idea on how they would fight their wars. While it is true that you cannot plan well for a war without knowing the context, there is such a thing as a contingency plan and so far there is only one group that I know of that has a down to Earth approach to containing and stopping a civil war that didn't involve "lets all just go put our gear on and wait until someone starts shooting us and and fight them". Heck, if they were really serious about fighting national threats, practicing on busting drug cartels is excellent practice. It involves learning how to covertly research into a concealed enemy is probably where four fifths of a armed force will spend it's resources in conflict anyways. Plus, you can do it without firing a shot. There is a reason why enforcement agency have anonymous tipping. Couple a personal testimony with some more concrete evidence such as information on drug routes or lists of possible suspects and why, or if you are really good, video evidence of contraband transfers and you have some very serious potential intelligence that is actionable. It's like bounty hunting (and actually a good way to get your start in that field) but unlike professional hunters, you have no obligation to the case and you don't have to pick up a gun.

79248cm/s said:

You can't say you are for the people if you trash stores and cause chaos. Not to mention the fact that protesting itself historically actually holds very little political effectiveness and simply polarizes the public. However, people like the quick feel good feeling of having people back them up in masses then go home, rather than spending days researching and developing a proposal and then going to their local or state government learning the right people to talk to and working from there.

Right people in the power? If you actually manage to do that you solved half of the world problems.
I have some ideas why it does not happen, but whatever is the reason the point is: It does not happen. I know no exception nowadays.

My first idea is that to actually being a "right person" you have to study so much that is too late for any kind of political career.

etb said:

Right people in the power? If you actually manage to do that you solved half of the world problems.
I have some ideas why it does not happen, but whatever is the reason the point is: It does not happen. I know no exception nowadays.

My first idea is that to actually being a "right person" you have to study so much that is too late for any kind of political career.

There are plenty of good people in politics, the problem is we generally like to focus on who we hate, and forget the ones still working in the background. Whenever people talk to me about some kind of "revolution" the first thing I do is quiz them on the basic local and state government. If you don't even have a clue about the people at this level, what the hell are you revolting against... We generalize in politics because we won't put the effort to sort out the good from the bad, and of course this isn't expected since we do have our own lives to attend to (the reason we are a republic and not a pure democracy). However, this also means that voting for the sake of voting without being informed is detrimental to the process. "Patriotic duty"? Bullshit, that is just the keywords for organizations to use ignorant masses as political pawns. Partial reason why I think basic testing should be mandatory for voting. If you don't know what the hell you are voting for a bunch of crap gets passed like

Edit: Ah, there I went again with another pointless rant...

This is what happens when SJW get their way.

Death to all tyrants!

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