okay, this got pretty sad. Don't worry Punky, it probably pays that much because it's a beach with big traffic and they pay that well

What's even more silly is that you can make more money in a "decent" way by going to the Battle Buffet with an amulet coin (and optionally, a pokemon with Happy Hour) and curb-stomping the L13 pokemon there. Against those rich old people trainers, you can get 10k with Happy Hour, and even the regular trainers give 1k apiece per fight. If you're ludicrously lucky, you can hypothetically make as much as 54k per day there, but you'll more likely get something like 20-30k.

You're basically robbing people, but you do it through "legitimate poke battles", so it's all good, apparently. I don't know why Skull Grunts don't catch onto this.

NWSiaCB said:

What's even more silly is that you can make more money in a "decent" way by going to the Battle Buffet with an amulet coin (and optionally, a pokemon with Happy Hour) and curb-stomping the L13 pokemon there. Against those rich old people trainers, you can get 10k with Happy Hour, and even the regular trainers give 1k apiece per fight. If you're ludicrously lucky, you can hypothetically make as much as 54k per day there, but you'll more likely get something like 20-30k.

You're basically robbing people, but you do it through "legitimate poke battles", so it's all good, apparently. I don't know why Skull Grunts don't catch onto this.

Because they're going against the system man! They won't be bought out by the man!

NegativeSoul said:

Because they're going against the system man! They won't be bought out by the man!

In Battle Buffet's case, you're pretty much literally stealing the lunch money and lunch from children as young as preschoolers. Legitimately. Meanwhile, Team Skull is "evil" because they... do ridiculous poses while doing it?

Well, they also "steal pokemon" somehow... It's never been clear to me how, since it's not like whether you win or lose a poke battle should have any bearing on what those humans do outside the poke battle, and the humans are apparently completely immune to anything the pokemon do, even if it involves earthquakes or meteors or giant lasers fired at the pokemon they're standing right behind. It's just that if you defeat all someone's pokemon, they are forced to stop doing whatever it was they were doing and run away or just talk to you. (Including if they are trying to stop you from intruding in their facility. If you win a poke battle, they're not allowed to raise an alarm, because, hey, you won, and fair's fair.) Meanwhile, kryptonite to the player character is anyone who simply refuses to poke battle them. If someone says that they'll only let a Champion through, even if nobody's even started spreading the idea of an Alola Champion yet, and you're completely helpless to them. Nobody tell any criminal organizations this - if they heard of the concept of simply using a board with a nail in it to threaten people while refusing to poke battle, the world would fall to their evil in a matter of days.

Incidentally, I also liked how you could say in your personal bio on the Festival Plaza stuff (which is basically the Internet functionality where you interact with random players around the world, mostly by trading,) that you "like" certain trainer types. So, you can make it so that you tell people who find your character on the Internet that, "I like Office Ladies!" Except in the preschool girl trainer type's case, it was changed to "I like battling preschool girls!" (But it's apparently still OK to say that you like Youngsters and Lasses... So long as they're over the age of 7, it's fine?)

NWSiaCB said:

In Battle Buffet's case, you're pretty much literally stealing the lunch money and lunch from children as young as preschoolers. Legitimately. Meanwhile, Team Skull is "evil" because they... do ridiculous poses while doing it?

Well, they let child gamble in the Pokemon world and this is pretty much the same thing.

Well, they also "steal pokemon" somehow... It's never been clear to me how, since it's not like whether you win or lose a poke battle should have any bearing on what those humans do outside the poke battle, and the humans are apparently completely immune to anything the pokemon do, even if it involves earthquakes or meteors or giant lasers fired at the pokemon they're standing right behind. It's just that if you defeat all someone's pokemon, they are forced to stop doing whatever it was they were doing and run away or just talk to you. (Including if they are trying to stop you from intruding in their facility. If you win a poke battle, they're not allowed to raise an alarm, because, hey, you won, and fair's fair.) Meanwhile, kryptonite to the player character is anyone who simply refuses to poke battle them. If someone says that they'll only let a Champion through, even if nobody's even started spreading the idea of an Alola Champion yet, and you're completely helpless to them. Nobody tell any criminal organizations this - if they heard of the concept of simply using a board with a nail in it to threaten people while refusing to poke battle, the world would fall to their evil in a matter of days.

In a world where a knee high bush can bar your progress, where it's entirely possible to breath underwater and withstand intense water pressure so long as your ride a Pokemon, where a creature that you're five times as big as can reliably carry you through the air, as well as other very strange inhuman abilities I think there must be some sort of unspoken honor code in order to balance the wild inconsistencies of the world at large.

Incidentally, I also liked how you could say in your personal bio on the Festival Plaza stuff (which is basically the Internet functionality where you interact with random players around the world, mostly by trading,) that you "like" certain trainer types. So, you can make it so that you tell people who find your character on the Internet that, "I like Office Ladies!" Except in the preschool girl trainer type's case, it was changed to "I like battling preschool girls!" (But it's apparently still OK to say that you like Youngsters and Lasses... So long as they're over the age of 7, it's fine?)

Well remember, parent's let their kids head out into the world at the age of ten with no supervision. I guess in the Pokemon world once you reach that age you're responsible for your own actions, and thus treated as an adult (more or less). I mean, would you let a ten year old by a ticket to a luxury cruiser and then ride it as a normal passenger?

NWSiaCB said:

What's even more silly is that you can make more money in a "decent" way by going to the Battle Buffet with an amulet coin (and optionally, a pokemon with Happy Hour) and curb-stomping the L13 pokemon there. Against those rich old people trainers, you can get 10k with Happy Hour, and even the regular trainers give 1k apiece per fight. If you're ludicrously lucky, you can hypothetically make as much as 54k per day there, but you'll more likely get something like 20-30k.

You're basically robbing people, but you do it through "legitimate poke battles", so it's all good, apparently. I don't know why Skull Grunts don't catch onto this.

If you leave the buffet before 10 turns are up, you're actually allowed to go back in. Repeat ad infinium for all the dosh you'd ever need, in one day.

Good thing we have the Aether Foundation employee here because there certainly aren't any "nice people" in the comments.

Blooming_Scissorwaltz said:

Good thing we have the Aether Foundation employee here because there certainly aren't any "nice people" in the comments.

Hey, I'd do "nice people" things if the game would let me, but people in the Pokemon 'verse are seriously screwed up about everything. Every interaction with others tends to go like this:

"I've spent all my life training up just these few pokemon to be the best they ever could be, and they're my perfect soulmates, so I beg you to let me get their asses slaughtered by you, champion!"

"Well, it's not like I have the ability to decline, so whatever."

"Go, Komala, show them the results of our training!"

"Snorlax, Happy Hour, then Body Slam them like the rest of the chumps."

"GAAAAAAH!" *WHAM* OHKO!

"OK, so you beat my best pokemon, but you won't beat the others I've trained and whose names I will call out ahead of time to let you switch in pokemon that are actually strong against their types!"

*OHKO Slaughter commences.*

"Yaaay! That was a great battle! It surely shows how much we both love pokemon that I threw all my beloved friends into your meat grinder to get butchered before they even got to move! That's given me the inspiration to train even harder so that you get more money when you grease my ass."

"Yeah, sure, whoever you were, I've already forgotten your name. That truly taught me some important lesson about something or other."

The one that stuck out to me the most was the preschooler girl who says her bestest friend ever is her Cleffa, who also is her watchdog and only one who knows how to get her home safely. So naturally, preschool girl attacks you, gets her Cleffa put in a coma, and then she realizes she's lost in the park and has no way of getting back home... but there's no way to interact with this situation, so all you can do is abandon this little girl to her fate! THE FUCK, GAME?!

NWSiaCB said:

Hey, I'd do "nice people" things if the game would let me, but people in the Pokemon 'verse are seriously screwed up about everything. Every interaction with others tends to go like this:

"I've spent all my life training up just these few pokemon to be the best they ever could be, and they're my perfect soulmates, so I beg you to let me get their asses slaughtered by you, champion!"

"Well, it's not like I have the ability to decline, so whatever."

"Go, Komala, show them the results of our training!"

"Snorlax, Happy Hour, then Body Slam them like the rest of the chumps."

"GAAAAAAH!" *WHAM* OHKO!

"OK, so you beat my best pokemon, but you won't beat the others I've trained and whose names I will call out ahead of time to let you switch in pokemon that are actually strong against their types!"

*OHKO Slaughter commences.*

"Yaaay! That was a great battle! It surely shows how much we both love pokemon that I threw all my beloved friends into your meat grinder to get butchered before they even got to move! That's given me the inspiration to train even harder so that you get more money when you grease my ass."

"Yeah, sure, whoever you were, I've already forgotten your name. That truly taught me some important lesson about something or other."

The one that stuck out to me the most was the preschooler girl who says her bestest friend ever is her Cleffa, who also is her watchdog and only one who knows how to get her home safely. So naturally, preschool girl attacks you, gets her Cleffa put in a coma, and then she realizes she's lost in the park and has no way of getting back home... but there's no way to interact with this situation, so all you can do is abandon this little girl to her fate! THE FUCK, GAME?!

Sorry, I laughed a little bit too hard on that one...
So true. Considering some of the Pokedex entries, this World can be extremely cruel. Just think about Ghosttype-Pokémon: oh cool, a Litwick! It will probably kill me, but it's cute!

NWSiaCB said:

Stuff that has a point, after 20 plus years of Pokemon

but specifically:

Nobody tell any criminal organizations this - if they heard of the concept of simply using a board with a nail in it to threaten people while refusing to poke battle, the world would fall to their evil in a matter of days.

While the idea of hardened crooks and grizzled veterans cowering in fear of 10 year old kids who beat them in Pokemon battles is indeed ludicrous, I would like to point out that the threat of grown-ups with rocket launchers and anti-tank rifles would still pale in comparison to the sight of a kid riding the Arceus who just wiped your team of rattatas and poochyenas.

In-game, I convinced myself that Team Rocket didn't stop their plans and give me money out of any sense of honor or respect for the Pokemon Battle system.

The goons remembered that while the local Pokemon Center can "heal their Pokemon back to perfect health", not even the best state-of-the-art ICU would be able to bring them back from the coma I would put them in if they didn't act good and proper now that I'd put their Pokemon out of commission. They gave me tribute, for they realized...

that their God had descended, and he was fresh out of mercy.