Not adding the character tags because I don't know their names, but the two untagged characters are not-Mika (pink hair/glasses) and not-Pomu (brunette/Metal Gear shirt). Trait connection tag added for obvious reasons; odd one out because Mika was never officially part of EN

Cliff_Edge said:

Not adding the character tags because I don't know their names, but the two untagged characters are not-Mika (pink hair/glasses) and not-Pomu (brunette/Metal Gear shirt). Trait connection tag added for obvious reasons; odd one out because Mika was never officially part of EN

At this point it seems like there’s quite the waiting list to get into Vshojo. And by the looks of how things are going for NijiEN that list is only gonna get bigger.

Random_Fanguy said:

At this point it seems like there’s quite the waiting list to get into Vshojo. And by the looks of how things are going for NijiEN that list is only gonna get bigger.

The waiting list's name is Leon

And the artist missed out Not-Yugo, otherwise this could have been the NijiRejects group.

Blank_User said:

I'm not going to look too deeply into this, but their Twitter handles are included with the art hashtags. Those two don't seem to be vtubers, just avatars of the account owners.

I think Mika could still count for trait connection in this case despite not being in EN, but I don't think we should use the tag for this post in the first place in consideration of everyone other than Dokibird, who as far as I know is the only one to consent to revealing her past self. I removed it to be safe, but if I'm wrong about this and it's something we should be tagging anyway, feel free to put it back.

We don't care that much about keeping alternate personas secret. In the first place, that "rule" only really applies to spaces directly related to the personalities in question. Their stream chats, channel comments, discords, reddits, ect. No one anywhere else is actually forbidden from talking about it, and it's almost always information anyone could find with little difficulty if they really wanted to.

This post was specifically drawn with the circumstances of these individuals in mind, it doesn't do any good to arbitrarily omit tags that reflect that obvious intent.

blindVigil said:

We don't care that much about keeping alternate personas secret.

Tell that to the users who keep scrubbing vtuber wikis of information related to alternate identities.

And don't tell me it's because that information isn't relevant to tagging, because it's at least as relevant as subscriber numbers and debut dates, and nobody seems to care nearly as much about cleaning up all that trivia. As long as artists draw vtubers alongside their previous roles (and they have) then there is no good reason for specifically removing that information from wikis unless we're actively censoring so-called forbidden knowledge.

blindVigil said:

We don't care that much about keeping alternate personas secret. In the first place, that "rule" only really applies to spaces directly related to the personalities in question. Their stream chats, channel comments, discords, reddits, ect. No one anywhere else is actually forbidden from talking about it, and it's almost always information anyone could find with little difficulty if they really wanted to.

This post was specifically drawn with the circumstances of these individuals in mind, it doesn't do any good to arbitrarily omit tags that reflect that obvious intent.

I know it can be talked about here, but I thought we treated them more or less the same as spoilers. Most of the comments I've seen mentioning "forbidden knowledge" are marked as spoilers, so I thought the same would apply to how we tag posts (like how we don't tag two siblings as such if it counts as a spoiler).

iridescent_slime said:

Tell that to the users who keep scrubbing vtuber wikis of information related to alternate identities.

And don't tell me it's because that information isn't relevant to tagging, because it's at least as relevant as subscriber numbers and debut dates, and nobody seems to care nearly as much about cleaning up all that trivia. As long as artists draw vtubers alongside their previous roles (and they have) then there is no good reason for specifically removing that information from wikis unless we're actively censoring so-called forbidden knowledge.

I also noticed that information not being in the wikis and assumed that was just the norm.

iridescent_slime said:

Tell that to the users who keep scrubbing vtuber wikis of information related to alternate identities.

And don't tell me it's because that information isn't relevant to tagging, because it's at least as relevant as subscriber numbers and debut dates, and nobody seems to care nearly as much about cleaning up all that trivia. As long as artists draw vtubers alongside their previous roles (and they have) then there is no good reason for specifically removing that information from wikis unless we're actively censoring so-called forbidden knowledge.

I was only speaking in regards to tagging. I personally don't see an issue with using spoiler tags to discuss these things, or keeping wikis limited to information relevant only to that persona, but it should never directly inhibit the ability to find posts because some users want to pretend that an artist didn't draw certain characters together for a reason.

Blank_User said:

I know it can be talked about here, but I thought we treated them more or less the same as spoilers. Most of the comments I've seen mentioning "forbidden knowledge" are marked as spoilers, so I thought the same would apply to how we tag posts (like how we don't tag two siblings as such if it counts as a spoiler).

There are 47 pages of kill_la_kill sisters, and that would definitely be considered spoilers. I'm sure someone has an example of untagged siblings, but all that really proves is that we're not very consistent about these things. Evazion's opinion at least is that trying to avoid spoilers on a site like this is pointless, moreso when some people treat everything like a spoiler.

ArcieA said:

And the artist missed out Not-Yugo, otherwise this could have been the NijiRejects group.

I'm beginning to think that the artist will need to make an updated version soon, with both Not-Yugo and Not-Scarle

After recent events (aka the leaking of a blank version of the contract), this fanart gains a lot of relevance.

A contract where the company can order you to visit their office by having to make an international trip and arrange stay at your own expense and then have to request reimbursement is a steaming pile. Then to just spit in your face the window to make the reimbursement request is short and you won't get reimbursed until a month later, assuming they don't delay payment.