For some reason, I'm trying to imagine Mechanicum artificers being all "kawaii uguuuu~" as they make fully functional miniature powered armor and weapons.
... among other things. She's supposed to be incredibly strong for her size in the anime (what with dragging the guy she's attached to around even without the help of legs), so she could probably wield a full-sized chainsword by herself? Or even a thunder hammer?
Meakashi said: Nobody else wondering why that huge Bolter Gun has a laser sight?
It's also a Gyrojet weapon (meaning it fires small rockets rather than bullets) yet spits out empty casings. Few things give WH40k fanboys headaches like trying to make sense of Boltguns, so many of us have stopped trying.
Popebug said: It's also a Gyrojet weapon (meaning it fires small rockets rather than bullets) yet spits out empty casings. Few things give WH40k fanboys headaches like trying to make sense of Boltguns, so many of us have stopped trying.
Bolter ammunition (a bolt) is primarily a solid slug. Conventional solid slugs utilise a propellant charge contained in a casing that, when ignited, forces the bullet out of the barrel. In contrast, a bolt is self-propelled; it features its own integrated solid propellant that propels the bolt at high speeds, essentially acting like a miniature rocket. The propellant itself is shaped to control the bolt's direction and speed; however, this method of rocket propulsion would normally warp the barrel due to gas pressure.
To avoid fouling the barrel, as well as the rocket propellant, a tiny amount of conventional charge is also utilized. This charge is just strong enough to force the bolt out of the barrel and ignite the bolt's propellant. The rocket-propellant is carefully fused to ignite just after leaving the barrel, alleviating any possibility of pressure build-up. The bolt then accelerates away towards the target under its own power.
CloSeph said:To avoid fouling the barrel, as well as the rocket propellant, a tiny amount of conventional charge is also utilized.
That sounds silly. Someone had to backwards-engineer an excuse to have shell cases because different authors messed it up. The real solution to that problem is to make the barrel with holes in it like... a gyro jet. It doesn't get any power from the barrel anyway http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyrojet
"Gyrojets fire small rockets called Microjets which have little recoil and do not require a heavy barrel to resist the pressure of the combustion gases."
Stubbers are effectively a modern machinegun in a setting with bolters.
Popebug said: Look, some British guys in the 80s came up with a gun that they thought looked really cool. There's really nothing more to it.
If you're going to start explaining things in a somewhat plausible way, use somewhat plausible explanations, otherwise its just laziness in the fluff in a game that has a really dedicated devotion to the fluff.
I'd aay the biggest problem with this piece is that the Templar isn't just stabbing people with his bolter.
Anelaid said: Stubbers are effectively a modern machinegun in a setting with bolters.
If you're going to start explaining things in a somewhat plausible way, use somewhat plausible explanations, otherwise its just laziness in the fluff in a game that has a really dedicated devotion to the fluff.
I'd aay the biggest problem with this piece is that the Templar isn't just stabbing people with his bolter.
Most of the fluff of WH40k is an ever-changing, self-contradicting mess. And I'm saying that as a fan. When a setting has had several dozen writers over several decades, don't expect anything to make too much sense.
Popebug said: Most of the fluff of WH40k is an ever-changing, self-contradicting mess. And I'm saying that as a fan. When a setting has had several dozen writers over several decades, don't expect anything to make too much sense.
I know that, I've been following since it was in second edition, and if you look at the setting since its inception in rogue trader, even things like the modern space marine have little to do with their original Judge Dredd-esque style.
Anelaid said: I know that, I've been following since it was in second edition, and if you look at the setting since its inception in rogue trader, even things like the modern space marine have little to do with their original Judge Dredd-esque style.
True. About the only thing that's still intact from the first edition is that the Emperor is little more than a corpse in a jar who is fed psychers by the shipload in order to keep intergalactic travel possible. And all Space Marines were little more than angry barbarians from feral worlds, and there was a picture of one of them smiling. Yes, a smiling space marine. It's hard to imagine, isn't it?
Popebug said: True. About the only thing that's still intact from the first edition is that the Emperor is little more than a corpse in a jar who is fed psychers by the shipload in order to keep intergalactic travel possible. And all Space Marines were little more than angry barbarians from feral worlds, and there was a picture of one of them smiling. Yes, a smiling space marine. It's hard to imagine, isn't it?
I don't know, I seem to recall Doomrider being a happy motherfucker.
When it comes to the nature of the Emperor himself, it seems to waver a bit, at least from what little I've read on it. Sometimes it hints that he could very well become a god, or is becoming one, because of the imperial cult.
If nothing else, the nature of how the chaos gods changed so that worshipping the Empy is actually a pretty good thing, since chaos gods feed on emotions, rather than actual worship (hence part of the emperor's anti-religious convictions, which did backfire on him spectacularly.)
The one constant, however, is Abaddon failing to do anything with his crusades.
Anelaid said: I don't know, I seem to recall Doomrider being a happy motherfucker.
When it comes to the nature of the Emperor himself, it seems to waver a bit, at least from what little I've read on it. Sometimes it hints that he could very well become a god, or is becoming one, because of the imperial cult.
If nothing else, the nature of how the chaos gods changed so that worshipping the Empy is actually a pretty good thing, since chaos gods feed on emotions, rather than actual worship (hence part of the emperor's anti-religious convictions, which did backfire on him spectacularly.)
The one constant, however, is Abaddon failing to do anything with his crusades.
In the first edition, Chaos didn't even exist yet. Sure, there were mutants, but they were mostly "just" your average radiation kind. No demons, Primarchs, gods, Heresy or any of the rest that's so central to the setting as it is now (although Chaos were already in the fantasy game). Which made the Emperor and the empire appear like even bigger jerks, so they clearly needed something really, really evil to make anyone sympathize with them.
Popebug said: In the first edition, Chaos didn't even exist yet. Sure, there were mutants, but they were mostly "just" your average radiation kind. No demons, Primarchs, gods, Heresy or any of the rest that's so central to the setting as it is now (although Chaos were already in the fantasy game). Which made the Emperor and the empire appear like even bigger jerks, so they clearly needed something really, really evil to make anyone sympathize with them.
Popebug said: In the first edition, Chaos didn't even exist yet. Sure, there were mutants, but they were mostly "just" your average radiation kind. No demons, Primarchs, gods, Heresy or any of the rest that's so central to the setting as it is now (although Chaos were already in the fantasy game). Which made the Emperor and the empire appear like even bigger jerks, so they clearly needed something really, really evil to make anyone sympathize with them.
Correct, I think in second edition what is known as the "warp" today, with all the demons and monsters, was limited to the eye of terror.
But I think the reason the chaos was made as it was, is the same reason the dark eldar exist. There is a need to expand the grimdark and create a mirror image of the most popular army.
But yeah, the warp was really close to the idea of a "ether" and eventually became what it is now.
Also funnily enough, you could field eldar as an ally as imperial guard and use units from their codex, with adeptus mechanius listed as "coming soon" as a faction.
And here we are with nothing more than a techpriest and jokareos.
